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	<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Chris-to-bal</title>
		<link>http://kayhanley.com/let-the-markets-decide/#comment-553</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris-to-bal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whew it's been a virtual blizzard of trading this week!  I was stuck in a conference Mon-Wed and missed out on all of the action.  This made me very sad, but today gave me the opportunity to dump some stocks, so my mood has improved some.  There's money to be made on the way up and the way down, but I much prefer making it on the way up!

Kay, I admit it.  You were dead nuts on target last August.  I recall thinking one dark day in January that you must be on cloud 9.

These precipitous drops in stock values do make me itch to buy more.  I'm incorrigible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whew it&#8217;s been a virtual blizzard of trading this week!  I was stuck in a conference Mon-Wed and missed out on all of the action.  This made me very sad, but today gave me the opportunity to dump some stocks, so my mood has improved some.  There&#8217;s money to be made on the way up and the way down, but I much prefer making it on the way up!</p>
<p>Kay, I admit it.  You were dead nuts on target last August.  I recall thinking one dark day in January that you must be on cloud 9.</p>
<p>These precipitous drops in stock values do make me itch to buy more.  I&#8217;m incorrigible.</p>
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		<title>By: kathleen</title>
		<link>http://kayhanley.com/let-the-markets-decide/#comment-544</link>
		<dc:creator>kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 06:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kayhanley.com/let-the-markets-decide/#comment-544</guid>
		<description>With today's "rally" I took the opportunity to sell more positions.  If it turns out that today is a harbinger of good times ahead, then nobody will be happier than I to have been wrong and I will jump back in.  I don't think I'm wrong, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With today&#8217;s &#8220;rally&#8221; I took the opportunity to sell more positions.  If it turns out that today is a harbinger of good times ahead, then nobody will be happier than I to have been wrong and I will jump back in.  I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m wrong, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://kayhanley.com/let-the-markets-decide/#comment-541</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 21:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kayhanley.com/let-the-markets-decide/#comment-541</guid>
		<description>Hmmmmmm.....anyone dumping their shares Monday would have missed the its biggest one-day point gain in 5½ years. Now I'm going to keep my eye on the mortgage rates. I'm liking what I'm seeing but fully expect another Bear Stearns is out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmmmm&#8230;..anyone dumping their shares Monday would have missed the its biggest one-day point gain in 5½ years. Now I&#8217;m going to keep my eye on the mortgage rates. I&#8217;m liking what I&#8217;m seeing but fully expect another Bear Stearns is out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://kayhanley.com/let-the-markets-decide/#comment-530</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 11:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kayhanley.com/let-the-markets-decide/#comment-530</guid>
		<description>JP Morgan is buying Bear Stearns for $2/share. Bear Stearns closed Friday at $30 a share. At their peak, the shares traded at $159.36. 

Great bottom fishing.

The glass is not half empty, it is half full. 

Is this the land of opportunity..............................................or what?

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JP Morgan is buying Bear Stearns for $2/share. Bear Stearns closed Friday at $30 a share. At their peak, the shares traded at $159.36. </p>
<p>Great bottom fishing.</p>
<p>The glass is not half empty, it is half full. </p>
<p>Is this the land of opportunity&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.or what?</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: kathleen</title>
		<link>http://kayhanley.com/let-the-markets-decide/#comment-528</link>
		<dc:creator>kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 06:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kayhanley.com/let-the-markets-decide/#comment-528</guid>
		<description>Dr. Rickles -

If you were an individual stock OR a mutual fund, I would short you.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Rickles -</p>
<p>If you were an individual stock OR a mutual fund, I would short you.</p>
<p>xok</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://kayhanley.com/let-the-markets-decide/#comment-526</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kayhanley.com/let-the-markets-decide/#comment-526</guid>
		<description>Dear Mrs Eisenstein,

I remember quite well our chat at Kiva and was amazed and very impressed by what you did. Your actions took the courage of your convictions....and you  made the right move (especially with respect to real estate).

Where we disagree is on your attempt to time the market (waiting until the bottom). The point of lowest value will differ from stock to stock, and real estate market to market. I don't care if I buy a stock and it goes down before rising in value. I would be concerned if I was a daytrader or in a position where I could not afford to lose any money. My feeling is that if the stock is solid and obviously undervalued, why not add it to the portfolio if it looks like a good value? I don't need to time the low.....and have already learned from MANY attempts that I cannot time the low. 

Re the real estate market, sad but true, there are a lot of great deals available. Taking into consideration the particulars (why the person is selling the house, how much they paid for the house, foreclosure, etc.), it's possible to all but steal a property. If I did not already have 3 houses (and probably soon a fourth), I'd definitely be investing in real estate. However, I'd only buy after a lowball and have no absolutely no doubt I could find an absolutely amazing bargain. 

The key thing is to remember (as if I need to tell you this) is the cyclical nature of the stock and real estate markets. One needs to factor in valuation (obviously the trickiest part, especially after a bubble) and now is a good time to invest if you think there is a bargain (bottom fishing anyone?). Yes, in a bear market people base their choices on emotions (and often behave irrationally). Their pain can be your gain. 

Am I jumping in 100% on individual stocks right now? No. I have maxed my month-to-month investment into mutuals....but am very wary about individual stock picks and am playing it quite conservative. But......there is some serious irrational shit going on (cattle calls) and I cannot ignore the temptation to partake of the festivities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mrs Eisenstein,</p>
<p>I remember quite well our chat at Kiva and was amazed and very impressed by what you did. Your actions took the courage of your convictions&#8230;.and you  made the right move (especially with respect to real estate).</p>
<p>Where we disagree is on your attempt to time the market (waiting until the bottom). The point of lowest value will differ from stock to stock, and real estate market to market. I don&#8217;t care if I buy a stock and it goes down before rising in value. I would be concerned if I was a daytrader or in a position where I could not afford to lose any money. My feeling is that if the stock is solid and obviously undervalued, why not add it to the portfolio if it looks like a good value? I don&#8217;t need to time the low&#8230;..and have already learned from MANY attempts that I cannot time the low. </p>
<p>Re the real estate market, sad but true, there are a lot of great deals available. Taking into consideration the particulars (why the person is selling the house, how much they paid for the house, foreclosure, etc.), it&#8217;s possible to all but steal a property. If I did not already have 3 houses (and probably soon a fourth), I&#8217;d definitely be investing in real estate. However, I&#8217;d only buy after a lowball and have no absolutely no doubt I could find an absolutely amazing bargain. </p>
<p>The key thing is to remember (as if I need to tell you this) is the cyclical nature of the stock and real estate markets. One needs to factor in valuation (obviously the trickiest part, especially after a bubble) and now is a good time to invest if you think there is a bargain (bottom fishing anyone?). Yes, in a bear market people base their choices on emotions (and often behave irrationally). Their pain can be your gain. </p>
<p>Am I jumping in 100% on individual stocks right now? No. I have maxed my month-to-month investment into mutuals&#8230;.but am very wary about individual stock picks and am playing it quite conservative. But&#8230;&#8230;there is some serious irrational shit going on (cattle calls) and I cannot ignore the temptation to partake of the festivities.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
		<link>http://kayhanley.com/let-the-markets-decide/#comment-525</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kayhanley.com/let-the-markets-decide/#comment-525</guid>
		<description>Bravo Kay! Well said. Here's another thought which has elicited some disagreement already. It certainly looks to this economically challenged observer (me) that the Fed is getting into a zone of statistical overcontrol. You can hardly turn on the tv without seeing Mr. Bernanke. This constant adjustment of interest rates, the constant, shall we say, meddling does not project an air of confidence. Not really. And if this economy needs anything, it needs to be portrayed as strong and solid, and those "in charge" need to be seen as totally confident about that. You know what I'm getting at here. Besides, let's hope they don't fix it 'till it's broken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo Kay! Well said. Here&#8217;s another thought which has elicited some disagreement already. It certainly looks to this economically challenged observer (me) that the Fed is getting into a zone of statistical overcontrol. You can hardly turn on the tv without seeing Mr. Bernanke. This constant adjustment of interest rates, the constant, shall we say, meddling does not project an air of confidence. Not really. And if this economy needs anything, it needs to be portrayed as strong and solid, and those &#8220;in charge&#8221; need to be seen as totally confident about that. You know what I&#8217;m getting at here. Besides, let&#8217;s hope they don&#8217;t fix it &#8217;till it&#8217;s broken.</p>
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		<title>By: Aerosmith</title>
		<link>http://kayhanley.com/let-the-markets-decide/#comment-523</link>
		<dc:creator>Aerosmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kayhanley.com/let-the-markets-decide/#comment-523</guid>
		<description>Remember when the movie "Wall Street" was meant as a warning to everyone? Does anyone remember the movie?

We're human, Kay. We never want to learn anything. We had busts and booms throughout the free-wheeling Nineteenth Century. For some reason we had to try it again and - shock! - same thing happened. Our present crazy tail-wagging-dog process of letting arbitrary stock values guide corporate decisions is finally producing fruit. The sad thing is, at some point after we get this mess cleaned up we'll collectively want to do it all over again.

History can make one cynical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember when the movie &#8220;Wall Street&#8221; was meant as a warning to everyone? Does anyone remember the movie?</p>
<p>We&#8217;re human, Kay. We never want to learn anything. We had busts and booms throughout the free-wheeling Nineteenth Century. For some reason we had to try it again and - shock! - same thing happened. Our present crazy tail-wagging-dog process of letting arbitrary stock values guide corporate decisions is finally producing fruit. The sad thing is, at some point after we get this mess cleaned up we&#8217;ll collectively want to do it all over again.</p>
<p>History can make one cynical.</p>
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		<title>By: kathleen</title>
		<link>http://kayhanley.com/let-the-markets-decide/#comment-522</link>
		<dc:creator>kathleen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://kayhanley.com/let-the-markets-decide/#comment-522</guid>
		<description>Dr. Rickles, this is where you and I disagree.  Undervalued or not (and we could argue about that as well), the market has quite a way to go before we see the bottom.  While one can find a bargain in theory, that way thinking doesn't apply in a bear market b/c investors are basing their choices on emotion. That is not an environment for my hard earned $$$.  I will definitely see you at the fire sale this summer, though!  As for real estate, prices are dropping like a stone for sure, but here in LA county the situation is far from corrected.  I'm sitting this round out, mate.  Buy art!

Do I detect some condescension in your tone, btw?  I stand by every word.  As you know, I started dumping my positions in Aug '07 and now my retirement and savings portfolios are %90 cashed out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Rickles, this is where you and I disagree.  Undervalued or not (and we could argue about that as well), the market has quite a way to go before we see the bottom.  While one can find a bargain in theory, that way thinking doesn&#8217;t apply in a bear market b/c investors are basing their choices on emotion. That is not an environment for my hard earned $$$.  I will definitely see you at the fire sale this summer, though!  As for real estate, prices are dropping like a stone for sure, but here in LA county the situation is far from corrected.  I&#8217;m sitting this round out, mate.  Buy art!</p>
<p>Do I detect some condescension in your tone, btw?  I stand by every word.  As you know, I started dumping my positions in Aug &#8216;07 and now my retirement and savings portfolios are %90 cashed out.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://kayhanley.com/let-the-markets-decide/#comment-520</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rule #1- proofread what you post

Rule #2- don't post until after your first cup of coffee


The investing landscape is better than after the 2000 tech bubble blowout or 911. Show me the money!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rule #1- proofread what you post</p>
<p>Rule #2- don&#8217;t post until after your first cup of coffee</p>
<p>The investing landscape is better than after the 2000 tech bubble blowout or 911. Show me the money!</p>
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